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Italsistem 60HP Wanklel

 
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Chuck McCue



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PostPosted: Wed Mar 14, 2012 7:42 am    Post subject: Italsistem 60HP Wanklel Reply with quote

I see the Saetta is back! twin carb 60 hp wankel.

*Spelling correction, Thanks Grammer King Kai! Very Happy

see a pic of the new Saetta:

https://www.facebook.com/ArsenalRacing
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kai



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PostPosted: Wed Mar 14, 2012 1:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

“Back” where, Chuck? Link(s) please as Google was no help to me with this one.

If they are indeed doing a relaunch, they’re going about it in an awfully quiet way. Not even any mention on their website. Question

Incidentally, Felix wouldn’t be too happy about what you did to his name, Chuck. Very Happy
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 14, 2012 4:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Err, that’s ‘grammar’ Chuck, not ‘grammer. And Felix’ last name in the thread heading needs another edit, too. Very Happy

And some of us aren’t on that ‘facebook’ thing. Would you mind posting pics and details here?
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 14, 2012 7:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I gave up on spelling and "grammer" on my smartphone years ago. Anyway....






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PostPosted: Thu Mar 15, 2012 6:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Engine with 2 carbs looks evil - nice
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kai



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PostPosted: Thu Mar 15, 2012 9:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

OK, Chuck, time for more info!

Someone on the German karting forum pointed to this: http://www.italiankart.it/m1858-saetta-wankel-k60cv.html

What’s the real story on this, I wonder.

By the way, we’ve encountered the odd standard Saetta with us on track. They’re fast but very noisy.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 15, 2012 1:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Antoine wrote:
Engine with 2 carbs looks evil - nice


You likey dual carbs? I know Alan will like this too:


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PostPosted: Sat Mar 17, 2012 6:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Guys i have done this with THE Aixro 5 years ago on testing on powerbench i had 72 pk

1carb 22mm was running the first inlet
2carb 30mm was direct on the second inlet with no restrictor

Not normal THE response of that engine but i never tested it on à Track

May be i should do that !!!

Grts
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 18, 2012 7:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

aixroboy wrote:
Hi Guys i have done this with THE Aixro 5 years ago on testing on powerbench i had 72 pk

1carb 22mm was running the first inlet
2carb 30mm was direct on the second inlet with no restrictor

Not normal THE response of that engine but i never tested it on à Track

May be i should do that !!!

Grts


Wow! (pk is the same as cv, hp, ps, etc.)

Imagine if the Aixro had direct electronic fuel injection. 72hp is a bit much perhaps, but a steady, all weather 60hp would be nice Laughing
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 18, 2012 9:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Twin carb Aixro with better flowing exhaust would be awesome! +80 hp?
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 19, 2012 10:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Laughing The very first design was with two carburettors. That's why the threads in the side plate and on the restrictor, which now hold the inlet manifold, will fit for two diaphragm carbs. Works if you get the setting of BOTH carbs right, but good luck doing that for the complete rpm spectrum.

That's why we went to a single float carb and the split manifold. Works fine, and it's much easier to handle.

Poul

PS: The engine shown is 2nd hand, but if Saetta should really be back I would appreciate if you let me know. Many thanks!
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kai



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PostPosted: Mon Mar 19, 2012 2:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Looks like they pulled the engine out of this project: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aDptlPPAwx4

Can we have fuel injection and turbochargers then, please? But keep it simple, too. Laughing
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 19, 2012 3:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This engine looks sooooooooooooo sickkk Very Happy
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alexp



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PostPosted: Tue Mar 20, 2012 12:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I REALLY like my Aixro the way it is, but I wouldn't say no to extra horses Laughing

FI would by mega also!

The Aixro is everything I ever wanted in a kart engine and more, that is very powerful, reliable, long (very!) service interval, and unexpectedly smooooth (unlike a 2 stroke!), amazingly light and compact for the power. It's a little beast.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 20, 2012 12:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

kai wrote:
Looks like they pulled the engine out of this project: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aDptlPPAwx4

Can we have fuel injection and turbochargers then, please? But keep it simple, too. Laughing


Will variable vane do for you Laughing

FI would be slick; turbo would be Shocked , it feels like turbo as it is!
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