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Sam19

Joined: 08 Jul 2011 Posts: 451 Location: Launceston, Cornwall
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Posted: Fri Jun 01, 2012 4:19 pm Post subject: Engine Rebuilds |
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hi everyone,
I'm currently studying at university and trying to afford uni and race is almost impossible so i was wondering what would be the best way to make money out of doing rebuilds for people, i know that to be considered you have to have your name on winning engines, but I'm a movie and have a lot more mechanical knowledge, i was a race mechanic running 6 radical sports cars over europe for the past 6 years, and my dad is a mechanical engineer, i rebuild all my own engines and have spent a small fortune on all the tools needed to do this including all the tools needed for honing, not boring just honing, i know someone else asked a few weeks ago about this and most people said about race winning engines is the only way of getting you know but if i was offering a rebuild service that was cheap would people take that over race proven engines, and I'm talking club level not Super1.
if anybody wants a cheap rebuild let me know and we can work out a deal.
what sort of price is a rebuild usually and what exactly do you get for your money ?
cheers
sam _________________
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chrissawyer21
Joined: 27 Dec 2011 Posts: 238
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Posted: Fri Jun 01, 2012 4:29 pm Post subject: |
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| I can vouch sam's engines are pretty quick. |
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Sam19

Joined: 08 Jul 2011 Posts: 451 Location: Launceston, Cornwall
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Posted: Fri Jun 01, 2012 4:47 pm Post subject: |
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cheers chris,
iv just had a look on grace and they charge £180 for an engine rebuild in clouding parts and labour, i would imagine this would include;
big end bearing
small end bearing
piston ring
crank case bearings
is that correct or would it include anything else? would it be honed and new piston for that price?
he also charges £60 for carb strip/prepare, i would rebuild a carb for £12 including postage. its £6 for a rebuild kit and i would guess it would be £2 postage so i would only be making £4 on each rebuild, I'm not saying that i would rebuild it to a low standard because thats not how i do things, what I'm saying is i would rather rebuild 2-3 carbs at once instead of them being sent in one at a time i would do you a deal the more that are sent in.
I have a industrial parts wash that i use every time i rebuild my engines, that would be used on the carbs as well, the carbs would come back fully rebuilt and set up ready to bolt on and race. the parts wash makes my engines look brand new, i only put the crank cases in there and hand waste the barrel and cylinder, i haven't tried putting a barrel in the wash just incase it takes the black coating off, but I'm looking at buying a F*cked head off a mate to check this.
if anybody is interested in a rebuild please let me know and we can work out price
cheers
sam _________________
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Sam19

Joined: 08 Jul 2011 Posts: 451 Location: Launceston, Cornwall
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Posted: Fri Jun 01, 2012 4:58 pm Post subject: |
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just looking round and spell fame offer a rebuild service
TKM BT82 Extreme Full Rebuild (Excluding Connecting Rod)
The full rebuild of the BT82 Extreme includes labour and the following new parts:
- New big end cage
- New crank pin
- New FAG main bearings
- Rebuild crank and adjust to run true
- New crank oil seals
- New piston and ring
- New piston pin
- New piston circlips
- New pulse pipe
- New small end assembly
- Hone barrel
- Pressure test engine
- Fiche legality check
- Ultrasonic Clean
Price: £235.00
(EX VAT at 20%)
Thats copied straight from there website and i can do the same rebuild for £160 including labour and fiche
and then they charge you £120 to fiche the engine i have all the tools to do their for £40
this means i could do a full rebuild including piston for £160 and i can do a engine rebuild and Carb rebuild for £170 as a special offer.
to me thats a cheap engine rebuild, i would also run the engine on a stand briefly to make sure everything is ok.
cheers
sam _________________
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chrissawyer21
Joined: 27 Dec 2011 Posts: 238
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Posted: Fri Jun 01, 2012 5:10 pm Post subject: |
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At that price i think you can expect to have my engine when it next needs a rebuild!  |
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Jinder
Joined: 04 May 2011 Posts: 479 Location: Bridport, Dorset
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Posted: Fri Jun 01, 2012 11:25 pm Post subject: |
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Hey Sam, if you can do a rebuild and fiche for £160 I'd like to add myself to your customer list-I'm getting funds sorted for a rebuild at the min and will be looking to get it done in about a month/6wks. Would you be up for that?
My engine certainly needs it, it's done around 15/16hrs now and is nowhere near as sharp as it was. I'm gearing up to drop into the season at Clay for the two-day meet in Sept onwards, so a rebuild has gotta be done before long, I've been putting it off for ages but the poor thing would definitely benefit from some TLC! _________________ ####################
Sr. TKM #25 at Clay Pigeon.
www.jinderracing.com |
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Vaknar

Joined: 10 Sep 2011 Posts: 336 Location: United Kingdom
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Posted: Sat Jun 02, 2012 9:19 am Post subject: |
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| Sam19 wrote: | cheers chris,
iv just had a look on grace and they charge £180 for an engine rebuild in clouding parts and labour, i would imagine this would include;
big end bearing
small end bearing
piston ring
crank case bearings
is that correct or would it include anything else? would it be honed and new piston for that price?
he also charges £60 for carb strip/prepare, i would rebuild a carb for £12 including postage. its £6 for a rebuild kit and i would guess it would be £2 postage so i would only be making £4 on each rebuild, I'm not saying that i would rebuild it to a low standard because thats not how i do things, what I'm saying is i would rather rebuild 2-3 carbs at once instead of them being sent in one at a time i would do you a deal the more that are sent in.
I have a industrial parts wash that i use every time i rebuild my engines, that would be used on the carbs as well, the carbs would come back fully rebuilt and set up ready to bolt on and race. the parts wash makes my engines look brand new, i only put the crank cases in there and hand waste the barrel and cylinder, i haven't tried putting a barrel in the wash just incase it takes the black coating off, but I'm looking at buying a F*cked head off a mate to check this.
if anybody is interested in a rebuild please let me know and we can work out price
cheers
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The postage would be more than £2. £2 probably wouldn't even get standard 2nd class. You'd probably want special delivery, for the compensation and extra careful handling.
Also if you're talking about an Ultrasonic cleaner, don't put anything anodized in it (like the head or barrel) it takes the anodizing off. _________________ TKM BT82 Walbro WB19 Carb Rebuilds + Ultrasonic Clean. £10.75 + return postage, PM me for details.
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rmc
Joined: 18 Jun 2008 Posts: 107
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Posted: Mon Jun 04, 2012 6:31 pm Post subject: |
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| Would you do formula blue engines? |
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Sam19

Joined: 08 Jul 2011 Posts: 451 Location: Launceston, Cornwall
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Posted: Mon Jun 04, 2012 6:32 pm Post subject: |
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im not 100% sure on formula blue engines or where to get parts but il have a look at get back to you
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rmc
Joined: 18 Jun 2008 Posts: 107
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Posted: Wed Jun 06, 2012 8:23 am Post subject: |
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| OK cheers |
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Sam19

Joined: 08 Jul 2011 Posts: 451 Location: Launceston, Cornwall
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Posted: Wed Jun 27, 2012 10:44 pm Post subject: |
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right then guys and girls i have finally finished everything and ready to start business, if you would like the prices of the 2 rebuilds that I'm offering please PM me with your email address and i will send over all the information you will need
cheers
sam _________________
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Sam19

Joined: 08 Jul 2011 Posts: 451 Location: Launceston, Cornwall
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Posted: Thu Jun 28, 2012 10:52 pm Post subject: |
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i have had a lot more interest then what i thought i would have, but this is good, keep them emails coming even if you don't want rebuild from me can't hurt taking a look?
i have modified the prices slightly this evening as i made a stupid error on the parts, i basically was charging for an extra gudgeon pin when spell fame do a "Piston Kit" which includes gudgeon and cir clips so whoever has received an email prior to this evening please take off £6 to get a more accurate price, i have also put together a price for juniors and seniors"extreme" and the juniors have an extra piston ring so is slightly more expensive but only by a couple of £ so nothing major.
also i would just like to thank everyone for there comments and good lucks i have received, i have only met a hand full of people off this forum and its nice to know it doesn't matter who you are people are always will to give you a helping hand
regards
sam _________________
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Louis B jtkm
Joined: 30 Nov 2011 Posts: 190 Location: Yate
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Posted: Thu Jun 28, 2012 11:18 pm Post subject: |
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Sam,you will also have to take in to account that some may have the new type crank cases that use the larger bearings and seals that cost about £15 inc vat more than the bearings and seals older type crank cases.
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Sam19

Joined: 08 Jul 2011 Posts: 451 Location: Launceston, Cornwall
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Posted: Thu Jun 28, 2012 11:20 pm Post subject: |
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well spotted forgot about that one, but like i have said in my email these prices are only rough and depending on the engine or condition of the engine the price can you up or down
sam _________________
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gokart racer

Joined: 03 Aug 2010 Posts: 90 Location: wallasey wirral
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Posted: Sun Jul 01, 2012 2:43 pm Post subject: |
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can u balance the crank too? and set the squash etc? _________________
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