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KZ2 star Jordan Lennox-Lamb lashes out with punches on vid!
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Alan Dove



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PostPosted: Tue Aug 07, 2012 10:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jordon Lennox-Lamb (KZ2): “I want to apologize because I overreacted after my accident with Johansson, but I was furious for my rivals' strategy. Now I just want to focus on my next appointments: I will run in the KZ2 World Cup in Sarno and also in the KF2 World Cup here in Zuera. Then I'll close with the KF1 World Championship in Macao. I just want to leave this episode behind."

He still thinks he's going racing.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 07, 2012 10:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jordan and Nikki Tinini (CRG Boss' Daughter) are 'an item'.

That might mean he won't get the sack Laughing

I don't condone his behaviour. I've met Jordan a few times and he is just a normal nice lad.

Lets be honest here drivers. How many times have you felt like you wanted to do that after an incident on track where both karts come off? Let those in glass houses and all that...
Me: nearly every time Wink If you don't at least feel like that then you are in the wrong sport and need to play at something where a certain amount of (controlled) aggression and physical fitness/endurance/skill are not required. Chess, knitting, video games?

In karting, like any competitive and physical sport, the adrenaline is pumping, endorphines are flowing, the stakes are high and also, the sport is expensive. Sometimes the people as well as the the highly stressed machinery just go POP!

Anyway as a result of his unfortunate loss of composure he was chucked out of the meeting and has lost the WSK Euro Series KZ2 championship (he is now in 5th) which may be what he was so up tight about before the incident.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 07, 2012 10:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Laury you stated

"Lets be honest here drivers. How many times have you felt like you wanted to do that after an incident on track where both karts come off? Let those in glass houses and all that..."

Shout or have stern words with someone maybe but punch NO !!! For you to make this statement makes me feel you have alot to learn about life
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 07, 2012 10:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quote:
Laury you stated

"Lets be honest here drivers. How many times have you felt like you wanted to do that after an incident on track where both karts come off? Let those in glass houses and all that..."

Shout or have stern words with someone maybe but punch NO !!! For you to make this statement makes me feel you have alot to learn about life


You probably dont race, or if you do race you probably don't take it seriously. Because if you did then you would understand why laury said this. If you and your dad/mechanic have spent days, on setup, going to your engine builders, straightening chassis, looking at data, going on diets, working to pay for it all. ALL FOR SOME BANDIT TO WIPE YOU OUT. You can go mental, sometimes you feel like killing them.
So dont try to belittle Laury by saying he needs learn about life, i think you need to learn about karting.
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Laury



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PostPosted: Tue Aug 07, 2012 11:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

realdon wrote:
Laury you stated

"Lets be honest here drivers. How many times have you felt like you wanted to do that after an incident on track where both karts come off? Let those in glass houses and all that..."

Shout or have stern words with someone maybe but punch NO !!! For you to make this statement makes me feel you have alot to learn about life


Well I think you live in a bubble!

Note that I used the words feel like. Again I will say that I don't condone his actions.

Aggression is an instinctive emotion in us, what sets us apart from other animals is the ability to control and focus that emotion to our benefit. Losing that focus and control results in frustration and violent action

Jordan 'lost it' briefly.

I'm confident he knows what he did was wrong and that he will have the piss taken for many moons... Laughing
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 07, 2012 11:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Laury your a cleaver guy.... I'm sure Jordan will be fine within the cry team and won't get banned too Smile

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 07, 2012 12:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

While I must agree we can all relate to that rage, if the CIK fail to take action there will be serious questions to ask about their credibility as a sanctioning body. Punching someone repeatedly in the neck, however hilarious, can be lethal.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 07, 2012 12:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I totally understand his frustration. I've been close to throwing a few punches after some racing incidents. I'd never win a fight because of my size, so I have refrained. But yeah, when you work so hard for something and you feel you've been wronged, I don't see how you could not want to punch someone's lights out! There's something in racing called "passion" and most drivers who are serious about the sport have tons of it.

I feel like Johansson should've been the one punching if anything.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 07, 2012 12:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

..and of course such behavour is expreselley prohibited

APPENDIX B TO THE INTERNATIONAL SPORTING CODE wrote:
Respect of the FIA Licence-Holders

Any harassment of FIA Licence-Holders, whether it be physical,
professional or moral, and any practices detrimental to their physical or
moral integrity, are prohibited.

FIA Licence-Holders shall inform the FIA of any violation of the present
Code with a view to referral to the International Tribunal.

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 07, 2012 4:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Whilst laughable in one sense this incident is very serious and should be treated as such.

I agree totally with Laury and hirsty, I can hand on heart say I've felt massive amounts of rage in the past through being taken out of a race, especially important ones. I've had to walk away many times following incidents as I had to remove myself from the situation to avoid serious consequences. Whilst its still wrong, I can understand when you are putting a massive amount of money, time and effort into something that someone then takes away from you it is very frustrating.

HOWEVER...

He should at the very least be suspended for the rest of the season. You cannot put your hands on another competitor, if he had pushed him that would be bad enough but punching repeatedly is very serious. He should be made to go home and think hard about what he's done. Not just write some media friendly apology that seems to attempt to downplay the seriousness of what he has done.

Go home, calm down, learn and come back. However, if it ever happens again he shouldn't be treated so kindly.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 07, 2012 6:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This is already the second time I'm aware of. He had a similar tantrum in Super One a few years ago at Whilton Mill
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 07, 2012 7:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Everyone who competes can relate to the feeling of wanting to rebel against someone on track - there is no defence and should be no support for actually punching someone again and again.
There was plenty of time to calm down before the other guy stood up, funny how everything fizzled out once they were visor to visor...
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 07, 2012 8:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Laury/Hirsty Well Living in a bubble maybe but I like my bubble.

Race yes, seriously not much point racing if you dont take it seriously
but aggression has no part in my outlook in or out of the kart.

Aggressive drivers are a danger to others on the track. Aggressive drivers punt others off. Aggressive drivers verbally and physically abuse others.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 07, 2012 9:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah theres been a few times as a driver and crew ive nearly gotten into punch ups on and off the track, even had to stop my driver and other crew members a number of times, usually just turns into an exchange of choice words and an hour or two of bitching in the pits.
Even "professional" drivers lose their cool sometimes.
At our national championship this year a well known and respected driver had an incident whilst leading the yamaha light final, door got left open on a corner p2 and p3 went through, p4 tried to follow and when the leader closed the door there was contact and the two speared off the track and out of the final, before both karts had stopped the former leader was out of his kart and punching the other driver, then jumped the fence got in his car and left the facilities, long story short 1 year ban, big fine and mandatory anger management counseling.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 08, 2012 8:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Big Mike wrote:
long story short 1 year ban, big fine and mandatory anger management counseling.
...and that's exactly what should happen this time too. Quite a few of people are banned because of actions like this, trails of "non-beneficial doping substances" or what ever; nothing is worse than double standards. And I totally agree with realdon. You don't need to be aggressive or asshole to win, just fast. No need to be angry to take opportunity. Frustation is only natural after failure, but someone with unrestricted aggression like that seems mentally handicapped for me.
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