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ntc2008



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PostPosted: Sun Apr 08, 2012 8:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

next years CRG and Tony will only be slight changes to the current model not new models unless CRG do a dark knight 2 this won't be CIK homologated like the origanal dark knight
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 08, 2012 8:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ntc2008 wrote:
next years CRG and Tony will only be slight changes to the current model not new models unless CRG do a dark knight 2 this won't be CIK homologated like the origanal dark knight


Its completely different mate iv seen it, its already homologated anyway, Next years Tonykart should be pretty different as well as its new homologation
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 08, 2012 8:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

if it wasn't presented for inspection by the CIK end of last year it's not CIK homologated for this period http://www.cikfia.com/fileadmin/content/REGULATIONS/Homologations/Homologated%20Equipment/Homol-materiel-2012_liste_web.pdf .

CRG only presented 1 kart the dark knight for there brand. they can re brand any of the other kart brands they presented to a CRG if they wish. (kali,zanardi,gp,lh,dr so on)

if your on about the CRG frame i think you are thats an LH3 frame 28-30mm and there doing an OTK with it, new stickers please
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 08, 2012 8:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yep LH3 Smile
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 08, 2012 9:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tony has decided to keep the current EVRR as it is still performing well. They homolated one called VORTON but I suspect is just to be used as a prototype for future models. Racer EVRR it is.

CRG has nothing major as well, extended homologation for the black star, etc but apart from that nothing new.

At least according to the submissions to CIK.

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 08, 2012 9:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

So why would you wait to get next years CRG when you can get it with different stickers now!
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 08, 2012 9:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Because there are still a couple of changes being made to it Wink Should have one in a couple of weeks Smile
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 08, 2012 9:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I am not getting a CRG... I suspect that post wasn't for me. But I agree, no major changes for next year so it is pretty irrelevant performance wise a 2012 or a 2013 kart. The wheel has been invented, there is no Holy Grail!

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 08, 2012 9:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

yes pedro you moneys safe in a 2012 kart to some degree

hazza i suspect your change will be a 1 dot or 2 dot chassis
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 08, 2012 9:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i feel like such a noob, but what does 'homologated' actually mean?

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 08, 2012 9:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

No worries mate...

For most champioships the chassis needs to be approved by the CIK (Internationa karting commission) CIK regulates major championships and the MSA normally follows rules aligned with CIK.

Any kart manufacturer, if he wants to sell big numbers needs to have their chassis approved / homologated as most championships require homologated chassis.

All chassis have a plate with the homologation number, is the homologation code for the chassis, it has en expiry date on it. Latest homologation is till 2017 so if you see a 2012 chassis the last number should be 17

See below, there is quite a bit of information about this

http://www.cikfia.com/regulations/homologation.html

For club level races it varies, most do not require a new homologation and allow chassis with expired homologation but not many would allow an un homologated chassis.

Chassis homologation costs manufacturers, CIK charges a tidy sum for homologating their chassis.

Hope this helps
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 08, 2012 9:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

for classes like kf2 kf3 which is what the manufactures race they have to show the CIK the (govening body) what they are going to race. at any race during the year that can check the chassis against the 1 they said they were going to use. kind of a cost cutting measure that doesn't work lol
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 08, 2012 9:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i dont need this for club level MSA right? and thanks
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 08, 2012 9:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

no only cik classes kf3 kf2 kz2
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 08, 2012 9:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You need to check with the club championship rules Ross, most likely is as i said they accept any chassis that has or had been homologated in the past. So for example if you had a 10 year old chassis you could still race.... better check anyday.

This prevents someone welding some tubes and go racing withouth minimal safety tests.

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