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Front wheel lifting when cornering

 
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kartingwanabee



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PostPosted: Mon Feb 20, 2012 6:11 pm    Post subject: Front wheel lifting when cornering Reply with quote

Hi

After watching a video today iv noticed my inside front wheel lifts mid corner before my rear wheel lifts . Anyone got any ideas what is causing this ?

Thanks wanabee
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T.J. Koyen



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PostPosted: Mon Feb 20, 2012 6:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This shouldn't happen unless you're having massive countersteer from an oversteery kart, you're two-wheeling, or your kart is bent.

The inside front is pushing DOWN into the track into the corner because of the caster. Mid-corner it should be unwinding and the steering wheel should be almost straight but the front wheels should remain on the track at all times.

Is it like this?

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kartingwanabee



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PostPosted: Mon Feb 20, 2012 7:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for your reply to be honest I'm a bit of a noob but learning pretty quick if u check this video at around 2mins it shows the lift pretty well.thinking kart could be bent or I have too much weight on the rear axle as I'm quite tall

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zEQsqpir7Wg&feature=youtube_gdata_player
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 20, 2012 8:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I couldn't see the bottom of the wheel so I couldn't really tell when it was off the ground, but you are pretty sideways in almost every corner so that is probably what it is. Smooth your throttle application and steering inputs out and it'll calm down a bit and it shouldn't lift the inside front wheel.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 20, 2012 8:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for the help I'm the kart in front by the way thought it showed the wheel lift at around 2mins pretty well. Definitely my driving style needs improving Embarassed
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T.J. Koyen



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PostPosted: Mon Feb 20, 2012 8:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oh, I thought you were the only with the camera on the kart. Yeah, it comes up when you countersteer.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 20, 2012 9:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What does that tell u is it my style or setup of the kart ? I know it's hard to tell from the small video clip but any ideas will help.
Thanks again
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 20, 2012 9:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Being a beginner it's probably your driving. I noticed your lines were very different to the kart following you. Like I said, I'd just work on smoothing out your driving. Don't mess with setup until you're comfortable with your driving and can run consistent laps, because you won't even feel changes until you know your kart and get familiar with how it feels lap after lap.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 20, 2012 9:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah ok thanks
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Louis B jtkm



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PostPosted: Mon Feb 20, 2012 10:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

we have a tonykart and we never have the rear torsion in makes the kart to stiff, also run the upper and lower front bumper bars loose as well.

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A.Farrell



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PostPosted: Tue Feb 21, 2012 11:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

mid corner oversteer

seat position isnt very good.
id take the rear bar out also
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Olu_apexking



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PostPosted: Thu Feb 23, 2012 11:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

search internetracingschool homey in google, no spaces xxx. Help you improve on some areas
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T.J. Koyen



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PostPosted: Fri Feb 24, 2012 4:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The tuning suggestions everyone is offering are good, but to be honest I wouldn't recommend even trying to tune it until you're comfortable driving. From the video, you don't look very comfortable in the kart yet so I'd just focus on hitting your lines and apexes for now.

Even when I'm tuning for more experienced drivers, I don't touch the kart setup until I know they've got all they can get out of the kart.

Just my opinion.

*also, 1000 posts. That's more than I have on the American forum. Smile
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